In terms of sustainability, if you look what's happened here, these trees were planted. This was clear cut 25, 30 years ago, I'm not sure how long. And, all these trees are the same age, and they're all the same species. And that works well for growing timber. It does not work well for long-term sustainability, or long-term biodiversity, which was there. It does not mimic what was there before.—Cece Headley.